Defending the Indefensible by BarbieTurqouise

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I strongly supported the message behind the EDL. To stop any Sharia law enforcing activity, To stop Any Muslim extremism, hate and segregation from their community towards soldiers, women, non believers and children. The grooming gangs, the terrorists, the Muslims who believe their ‘rules’ are the only to abide by, and to ignore out government and social morals are what I did, and still do have an issue with. I grew up in south east London were this kind if activity is rife. Gangs seem to use the activity of Mohammed the gangster as a reason to act the way they do, an excuse, almost. In their eyes stabbing someone, robbing someone, rapping someone and acting like a all round thug was justified because they were Muslim. I’ve watched many people’s lives torn appart because of Islam. By 15 3 people I knew were killed because of Islam, either because they acted like Mohammed and got their comeuppance, or because they confronted a Muslim. I was targeted at 16 by two Muslim men, buying me everything I wanted in hope that I would return the favour. Fortunately, my parents saw though them before I made any mistakes. They made me burn everything they bought me, moved me away from the area and “sorted” them out. 

I started supporting the edl in 2012. It was a quiet support, as my family are built up of different ethnicities along with my social circle, but when lee rigby was murdered by two men who I knew of from gangs in south London, enough was enough. I destroyed alot of friendships, people I thought were friends made excuses for them to save themselves from persecution from the gangs they were involved in. I had to delete Facebook as I experienced so much hate from people I grew up with for openly condemning what they did to the poor man and supporting the EDL. 

I constantly from that day tried to justify the EDL to family and friends. “They’re not racist” I’d say. “They don’t hate all Muslims, just the extreme ones” but as time went on, I experienced hate from other members when I openly announced that I was a traveller “filthy pikeys” was a common one, I would ignore it and understood that it was only a few that acted that way. Or so I presumed. I watched as people openly made racial remarks, more and more supporters seemed to think this was perfectly ok. OFCOURSE, racism works both ways and I HATE the social deconstruction of anything ‘white’ or ‘English working class’ but if you’re trying to make that statement, acting like they do isn’t going help the argument. 

I never went to a demo, I work and have a child, my friends won’t go with me in fear of racism towards them either. Over the last few days, I’ve seen people persecute those who don’t demo. Saying they’re not ‘real’ EDL. I have removed trolls from the network, I have received death threats for protecting them. Lost friends for supporting them and been called every name under the sun for protecting them, yet I’m not real EDL? Turning up to a demo and shouting “Allah was a peado” doesn’t make THEM real EDL in my eyes. Firstly, they obviously have no education on Islam. Allah wasn’t a peado. The messenger Mohammed was. Also, how is chanting that going to gain support? Its not. Its probably just putting the fear of Christ into people walking past. Grown men shouting? No. That’s not how to deal with an issue that is not only religious, but militant and political. 

Yesterday I openly said this, I knew I would be persecuted for it. Not to this extent though. I put the issues out there, that racism is going on in the EDL. That segregation, vilification of all Muslims and lack of education is a big problem. I Strongly believe that there a a few supporters who have no idea what they are supporting. They know nothing on Islam, They just go around chanting racial hatred And going to get pissed up and fight. There needs to be a Tighter run Movement, That doesn’t just condemn Nazis, But exposes and removes them. There needs to be more education and less Arguments Towards the left. Whether people like it or not, Islam is political I’m the only way to target and tackle the issues within Islam Is through a political movement, a political strategy, Not standing on street corners chanting that Allah is a paedophile. The base, yesterday I was targeted by a large amount of EDL supporters, I gained a lot of support however numbers that we call leftists, Which shows something doesn’t it? It shows that the majority of the UK agree that there are problems within Islam But don’t want to support the EDL because Of those who Act like hooligans, Have no education on Islam and The nazism racism and segregation That goes on. Whether people like it or not the Edl needs to be run more tightly, And anyone who thinks socially unacceptable behaviour and hate Is Okay needs to be removed. Yes we will probably loose Some support from those hooligans, however I strongly believe that we will gain a huge amount of support From those who currently condemn us. 

Until that time, I will no longer be part of the EDL. There were many reasons because of this, One being the persecution i experienced last night, two the lack of political movement, and three Build a lack of condemning Towards those who think acting like a thug is okay. 
I was told by surprisingly quite a few people last night but not only should I leave edl, But also quite a lot agree with me. 

I have lost A lot for the EDL friends that I have had from many many years, I feel uncomfortable walking around certain areas by my own with my children because of the experiences I had defending the EDL. This isn’t the Edl’s fault this is the fault of people who don’t understand. However it is the EDLs fault for the lack of support I have received the supporting them. 

I do not have an issue with the whole Muslim community, I do not have an issue with any other races, I do not have an issue with Jewish people, Hindus, Sikhs, Christians. I have an issue with the way society has become, And the truth is it has become like this because the government fail to see and fail to act On the actions of a few Muslims who have made a lot of communities uncomfortable.  I don’t know how many times I have to say this but the only way to change the way things are going Is through a political and NON racial hatred movement. Balance to be some kind of membership process, some kind of fishing out Nazi process, No segregation to people who believe in their beliefs, No segregation to followers of different races different areas and different communities. Just a clear message, tackling those who destroy our communities, extremists, hate preachers,  sharia law enforcers.  The Burka is not actually a religious symbol, it is part of sharia law. Hatred towards our soldiers isn’t acceptable, FGM isn’t acceptable, Sexism, homophobia, Hatred towards nonbelievers and people of other faiths, is not acceptable. That is the issue, not all Muslims are like this we need to get that message out there, maybe then the good Muslims will help us in defeating the bad Muslims. However all the time we have people in the Edl who are  uneducated, Racist, Hateful and Unlawful, We aren’t going to get anywhere, and shouting ‘we don’t accept people like this’ at a demo isn’t going to change sweet fuck all. 

Islam…A big fat lie!

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What the hell is going on in this country? Freedom of speech and the right to peacefully protest are being taken away slowly under our very noses. Multiculturalism is promoted as acceptable and the way forward, regardless of what actually happens on the streets. Just look at India/Pakistan, the former Yugoslavia in Europe to see what happens. David Cameron says its the British people that should integrate with Islam not the other way round(See pic below). To claim Islam is not a problem and is a peaceful religion and only being twisted by a few individuals is as absurd as saying Nazism was a charter for child carers! Time and again we switch on our tv’s, radios, pick up a newspaper and see for our selves the death and destruction Islam causes around the globe and yet western leaders still remain resolute in their calls for the public to accept this lie! A quick look through the Quran itself gives you a taste of what Islam is really about! And yet we’re the ones who are supposed to adapt to it? Centuries of civilization are supposed to be thrown away in favor of taking in Islam and what it really is and does to the nations its allowed to fester in! Afghanistan is another prime example of how repressive and damaging true islam can be to a nation(see pic below). From a progressive free thinking society in the 1970’s to executing women with a Kalashnikov rifle in a football stadium in the 1990’s (see pic). How is this a peaceful religion? How is it tolerant? And why should it be accepted in western civilization? Women who are raped in Islamic states face persecution and punishment for being the victim of the most vilest of crimes (see pic). How is it even classed as a religion in the 21st century? What God would want this sort of abuse to be done in His name? Islam, founded 1400 years ago, has been on a brutal and savage campaign of war (see pic below)and oppression ever since and yet we are being sold the line that it is a peaceful religion. That moderate muslims are the true face of Islam and not these ‘few’ extremists. Well I for one am not buying this bullshit anymore. In Nazi Germany not all Nazi’s worked in the death camps. Some were bakers, school teachers, shop keepers etc.. It made the lie more believable, it made fooling the rest of the globe easier. Make no mistake Islam is just as evil and totalitarian as Nazism was!
Islamic states allow young girls to be married off at a ridiculously young age (see pic). Women are stoned to death ( yes stoned!) for being raped!(See pic) And yet we’re being told to embrace its message and to be more tolerant. That somehow its been usurped by a handful of radicals for their own gain. This is nonsense, a lie, manufactured by politicians and leftards to forward their own agenda and continued support for a multicultural society. Cultural genocide of native western civilizations is happening today, in our time, to our nations! Being sacrificed in favor of an anti-Semitic barbaric ideology. As an atheist I find this doubly appalling, firstly because I do not want to be ruled over by any religion and secondly because there are other more peaceful, tolerant religions, that people can choose to follow if they so wish. England and western civilization in general is, after all, Christian.
As some of you who have read my previous posts or follow me on twitter (mrobbo1971) you will know I am an EDL supporter and continue on a daily basis to expose Islam for what it is and argue daily with Leftards and Muslims alike on what Islam is. Their defense ranges from puerile insults and accusations of me being a racist to comparing ancient Christian crusades as justification to Islams naked aggression to western countries. None of these claims are true of course and are never backed up with facts or evidence. Islams aggression into western civilisation is easily chartered however (see pic). Not once have I been offered any explanation for the barbaric acts perpetrated daily in the name of Islam. Not once have I been offered a valid excuse for the countless wars Islamic jihadists start across the world in their pursuit of global domination. And yet despite all Islams violence, oppression of women, rape culture anti-semitism and homophobia it is the EDL that certain people are calling for to be banned! The EDL who only exist to highlight the depravity of Islam. A simple street protest group with no political agenda or ulterior motive other than exposing Islamic teachings. Some have even called for it to be classed as a terrorist organisation, putting them on par with the IRA or Al’qaeda! How ludicrous and absurd are these people? To try to class a few acts of drunken hooliganism as terrorist acts is just pathetic. In no way are the EDL on the same par as the real terrorist threats this country and most of the globe face on a daily basis from Islamic jihadists the same thing. I doubt there are many countries who have not been affected by terrorism carried out in the name of Islam. Instead of attempting to smear EDL supporters and ban their rallies the powers that be should be focusing on the real threat and hate evident to see at most islamic protests (see pic). Compare what the EDL say and do at their protests (see pic) to what Islamist do at theirs (see pic). The comparison is ridiculous. In no way are the EDL as dangerous as these people. They (Islamists) follow a twisted ideology bent on global domination and the enforcing of Shariah law. The EDL campaign to highlight and expose it. The differences could not be more stark. Calling for a ban on EDL as an organisation is just another step in the direction of fascism. Exactly what Islam is in essence. A fascist totalitarian ideology wishing to control every aspect of peoples lives through shariah law. The EDL in comparison only want people to see Islam for what it truly is.

laughing at the left

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I am a right wing racist fascist! What?? I hear you say, that’s an outrageous stance to admit to! I should be burnt at the stake, pilloried by my community and banished from society. My lineage should be wiped out and any and all reference to my name should be expunged from the annals of history. But wait, don’t you want to know how I know this? How did I come to this conclusion? Well I didn’t, I was told this. In fact I have been told this a number of times recently. Ever since I voiced an opinion on extremist Islam on twitter I have been regularly accused of it. I, like others, who share this opinion are often labelled with it. Accused of it by faceless, anonymous accounts usually. Falsely and with no evidence by people who claim to have “the moral high ground”. The same people who feel its their “moral duty” to point out that the women who take a stance against Islam are nothing more than whores and sluts who should be gang raped and murdered! Who are these people? Well, they are the “left wing” an amalgamation of socialists, liberals and violent anarchists, (ironically these last would be the first to be shoved against a wall and shot should they get their way and do away with the democracy they claim to hate) or, as I will be referring to them from now, “leftards”. Self righteous and morally corrupt bigots who feel this country (UK) and pretty much any western society should spend all its efforts in apologising for what past governments did. Open border policies, unlimited access to health care and welfare for immigrants, regardless of the already over stretched budgets of these facilities. Its their “human right” to have a better life they will say (in between telling you yours don’t matter). The rights of their perceived victim are far more important than “privileged whitey’s” who they hate so much. Their own self loathing is clear to see. Present them with statistics proving the burden and they will deflect or in most cases totally refute them without offering any evidence to support their counter argument other than their own sycophantic ideas. Many an argument I have had with them would go something along those lines, as I’m sure many of yours have too (unless of course your a leftard). Attending street protests they enjoy nothing more than a good chorus of “You’re racist” and “you’re a fascist” or “If it wasn’t for the coppers you’d be dead” they will shout at you, screaming it at the top of their sanctimonious lungs, foaming at the mouth like rabid dogs whilst hurling a bottle of piss at you and in some cases kicking your head in (if your a woman or defenceless old man, anti fascism, apparently, doesn’t discriminate). The irony of their fascist actions in not allowing you your opinion, regardless of how loathsome it may be to them, is clearly lost on them. Ask them to explain how voicing an opinion on a religion is racism and you will be ignored at best but more likely insulted and presented with evidence of Christian crusades(???) from centuries ago, your grammar criticised and then blocked (twitter). Like this has somehow proven their point. I imagine them sitting back at this point patting themselves on the back for again tackling the evils of racism,and grammar (from the safety of their keyboard) taking another swig of gin, lighting a ‘Rothmans’ and moving on to their next trolling victim.
Sexism is another of their cause’s they try to champion. Fair enough, you may say, what’s wrong with highlighting that? Nothing, nothing at all. However, I have witnessed so much sexist abuse levelled at female critics of Islam by these same people that again they show their stupidity and hypocrisy. It would seem that its fair to say that as they’re self righteously typing their disgusting insults to these women (who in my opinion have more to lose in not exposing Islam for its anti womens rights than most) that they forget they are the ones who claim to be the “moral guardians”. In my opinion its morally wrong to threaten rape on women and children or wishing death upon them regardless if its only on social media sites. Where is their moral outrage when you point out rape victims get punished in Islamic states? Where is their moral outrage when 12 year old girls are married off to perverted old men? Where is their moral outrage when homosexuals are persecuted? It all seems to evaporate in their frenzy to condemn and terrorise. I say frenzy because that’s what it is in most cases. I’ve seen it myself, as I’m sure you have, many a time, when one woman will be quite literally under verbal attack by four or five leftards at a time. Insulting her, her children her heritage. Anything and everything seem to be fair game to them in their pursuit to either silence or break the woman they are abusing! Fortunately a particular woman I have in mind is strong enough to handle these trolls and give as good as she gets without lowering herself to their disgusting level. If your reading this, @VixxyLix and I hope you are, I and all other EDL members have nothing but huge respect and admiration for you and your tireless efforts and stoic resolve you show on a daily basis!
So what’s to be done about them? Should we meet their claims with the same puerile insults? Should we hunt them down and kick some sense into them? (Tempting). Or should we join together in laughing at their attempts to discredit, dismiss and deflect our points? Laugh with me at their ridiculous justification for Islams violence. Laugh with me at their attempts to justify Islams paedophilia by re-branding it as hebephilia. Laugh at them as they try to ridicule the way we dress whilst they parade around in socks and sandals, laugh as they try to insult our women as they offer beard and moustache trimming advice to their women. Engage them in debate, by all means try to change their stereotypical view of us. Remember its not racism to criticise Islam, its not fascism to have and opinion, it is fascism however to try to silence others from having one. But above all else remember to laugh at them! Laugh at them till you have tears in your eyes and cramps in your abs’.

An Englishmans Journey

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My name is Mark Robertson (mrobbo1971) and I support the English Defence League. This is my rambling story of how I came to this stance and how my opinion slowly formed over a decade or so. First I would like to fill in a little bit of my background.
I grew up in Milton Keynes, an overflow “new town” built in the late 70’s, to relieve congested London. Born into a working class family with two brothers, one older one younger. We went to comprehensive schools, did everyday things and had no political or religious influence from our parents. To this day I have no idea how my parents vote. If I had to make a guess I would say they are middle of the road “average joe’s” possibly labour.
School was ok, I wasn’t a great student but certainly not the worst! I did however enjoy sports and represented my school at cricket and football. I was fairly popular, I had my ups and downs and run in with bullies, as expected at a state comp’ but nothing to write home about.
I left school at 16 with an average education and went to work in a variety of jobs until, at 26, I started driving for a living. This opened my eyes to the rest of Britain and the many different cultures within. Geordies, Scousers, Mancs, Jocks, Welsh etc.. I loved it! Every new area led to a new experience, some were more open and friendly than others and some were just…well odd.
It was at this stage I came into contact with my first Asian community. Up until this time I had had very little contact with Asians other than the few guys I went to school with and the pointless RE school trips to a mosque and a sikh temple. This community was in Bradford and it was like stepping into a different country. It smelled different they dressed differently to any Asian I knew and spoke an entirely different language. I felt like an outsider. However, I reasoned, they weren’t doing me any harm and I never had to live there so good luck to them. I saw a few places like the one in Bradford over the next few years, some were better and some were outright hostile because I had a white face and was in their community. Again I reasoned I don’t have to live here so it doesn’t matter. They lived in Britain so were British right? This opinion remained unchanged for a few more years until september 11 2001
When the World Trade Centre collapsed, after terrorists flew 2 planes into it, killing almost 3000 innocent men and women going about their daily business of work, my first thought was “oh shit, this is gonna cause chaos”. I watched on tv, like millions of others around the globe, with horror and morbid fascination, the pictures of people throwing themselves from windows to escape the intense heat and wondered how someone felt making that choice to hurl themselves out of a window rather than burn to death. My 2nd thought was why? Why would people want to fly planes full of innocents into buildings? Why commit murder on such scale? What had the USA done to deserve this? What reason could justify this atrocious act of mass murder? A lot of people I spoke to said it was because of their foreign policy the way they “policed the world”. I knew little about Americans, other than Hollywood movies and of cause how they (single handedly apparently) had helped win WW2, let alone their governments foreign policy. So I started looking into it a bit. It led me from Korea to Vietnam to opposing global communism to arming despotic middle eastern dictators and mujahideen freedom fighters in Afghanistan. By now I had heard a lot about Osama Bin Laden, through news channels and internet. The man held responsible for the Twin Towers attack. Him and a terrorist organisation called Al’qaeda. I read more about him, where he came from what his motivations were and his reasoning for murder. A lot of his propaganda videos had references to Allah and Islam. This was a deeply religious man I thought. I’m no stranger to religious conflict having grown up in Britain during the IRA bombing campaigns of the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s, but this guy seemed to on a whole new level.
In 2001 the west, led by USA and Britain, invaded Afghanistan to rid the country of terrorist training camps and depose the Taliban, a fundamentalist islamic political movement. Who can forget the iconic image of a woman being shot in a football stadium and not think this war was just? These people were barbaric. My older brother fought in this war and returned with some true horror stories of what he had seen and been told by locals. The treatment of the population by the Taliban and now insurgents (Jihadists), hoping to retain their barbaric grip on a once beautiful and forward thinking nation. Make no mistake, the taliban were acting under the guise of Islam, the purest and most basic form. Their form of it is the literal meaning of it. Totalitarian in its administration and barbaric and repressive in its practices.
During this period a coalition of countries, spear headed by USA and Britain, invaded Iraq with the mandate to remove Saddam Hussain from power,( in my opinion something that should have been done in the first Gulf war). Once again my brother went to war for his country and once again returned physically safe but again with horror stories of what he had witnessed. IED’s, suicide bombers, women and children used as shields for islamic insurgents (Jihadists), same story as in Afghanistan, same brutality and barbarism.
It was at this time that I started to attempt to read the quran and to watch many videos from Youtube attempting to get an understanding on this religion of Islam. I found many contradictions within, as I’m sure many who have read it would agree, but also an overwhelming sense of hate. Hate towards Jews, hate towards non believers or infidels. The videos I watched of clerics and imams were not much better and ranged from wife beating to advocating murder for homosexuals and world dominance through political Islam.
Shortly after this terrorists came to the streets of London. On the 7th of July 2005 a group of Muslims exploded ruck sack bombs on trains and a bus killing 52 and injuring nearly 800 people on their way to work. The thing with these muslims was that they were not insurgents. They were not foreigners who had slipped through the security net. These were what people were calling “home grown” terrorists. Taught in our own schools, living in our streets, working alongside us in our places of work. Long and extensive investigations were launched, inquiries were set up to find out how and why this happened. The press reported every detail of their lives, names, their education where they practiced their religion how they had they become “radicalised”. How had western raised muslims become Jihadists prepared to maim and kill their own countrymen and women? The answer, in my opinion, is that they did not view England as their country but as a new battle ground for the spread of political Islam. Using violent Jihad as their argument.
Since this attack security forces around the world have worked tirelessly to prevent any more mass murders on the scale of 9/11, 7/7 and the Beslan school massacre. Every nation has had its own troubles with Islamic extremism. Be it riots, murder, or, as most recently being brought to light, sexual grooming gangs specifically targeting non muslims.
Which brings me to the EDL. It was through the EDL that I first learned about these gangs of muslim men, wilfully targeting vulnerable young girls, plying them with drink and drugs and then raping and torturing them for years at a time. Again these men, like the Jihadists, were acting in accordance to their teachings in the quran and hadiths. I watched more videos and read more articles on Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll and realised that underneath the hype and stereotyping from the main stream media (I admit here I was fooled into believing it too) that they actually had valid points. Yes the EDL are a street based protest movement. Yes there are blatant racists amongst the members and yes some are nothing more than football fans looking for a jolly and a punch up. But, there IS an important message too. The more I listened and the more I researched their claims the more I found out were true. There is a very real danger facing the west today in political Islam. Extremists in this country and all over Europe are calling for shariah law to be implemented into western society. Politicians and especially left wing thinkers will say this is not true and its all scare mongering by right wing activists. However these groups such as the EDL would not exist and continue to grow in support if the threat was not real. The EDL was born on the back of Islamic extremists not the other way round.
Earlier this year I joined twitter. Shamefully I admit at first to follow Made in Chelsea! However, before long I started to follow @edltrobinson and others from the EDL. I read their tweets, followed their links and witnessed the abuse they received. Especially to Tommy and his family and the female supporters of EDL, mostly by young muslim males. It wasn’t long before I was retweeting some of the EDL tweets and posting my own observations and links from internet and books I had found through my own research. Many conversations followed with other like minded people, some a lot more knowledgeable than me, some not so much. Muslims too I might add.
On the 20th of July in Birmingham I attended my first rally in open support of the English Defence League. I didn’t know what to expect but judging from what I had seen on youtube from the last time they had held a rally there and talking to others, I was fully prepared to have violence levelled at me for doing so. Violence from the supposed UAF. Unite Against Fascism. A government funded protest group who claim to be anti-fascist and yet who use all fascist tactics in trying to silence any opposition to their alleged moral stance. Lies, intimidation and outright violence are their weapons. Facts and truth are nothing more than an inconvenience. Supporting them are the MDL- Muslim Defence League also a street protest group set up to counter the EDL rallies. These two groups turn out at every EDL rally instigating violence and acting like the fascists they claim to be against.
So, here we are, August 2013 and I am an English Defence League member. Not just someone who agrees with their views but a member. Ready to attend more upcoming rallies regardless of the danger this may put me in. I speak openly on twitter about my opinions and will continue to do so. Someday I hope the government will admit there is something wrong in Islam and some of its teachings and stop ramming their idea of multiculturalism down our throats. Hopefully muslims can reform its teachings much as Christianity did with the New Testament. I live in hope, because without it we have nothing.

Family of drowned toddler Aylan Kurdi had been given FREE housing in Turkey, while father’s story is full of holes

Interesting article dissecting the truth from the lies

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Abdullah Kurdi’s story is made-up. But his lies are now being used and rewarded by the media in full blown propaganda, while pressuring policies to force Europe to take in more economic migrants who have never experienced a war zone.

Abdullah was never on that boat to watch his wife and children drown. That’s why he was the only survivor. The first time he learned of their death was from the hospital after the photos of his young son was circulating in the media. Listen to all the contradictions and holes in his story.

This was an attempt to send his wife and children into Europe before his own arrival to apply for refugee status as a lone woman with children, while they never even lived in a war zone.

Unfold the #migrationfraud :

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Islam…A big fat lie!

Islam and some home truths

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What the hell is going on in this country? Freedom of speech and the right to peacefully protest are being taken away slowly under our very noses. Multiculturalism is promoted as acceptable and the way forward, regardless of what actually happens on the streets. Just look at India/Pakistan, the former Yugoslavia in Europe to see what happens. David Cameron says its the British people that should integrate with Islam not the other way round(See pic below). To claim Islam is not a problem and is a peaceful religion and only being twisted by a few individuals is as absurd as saying Nazism was a charter for child carers! Time and again we switch on our tv’s, radios, pick up a newspaper and see for our selves the death and destruction Islam causes around the globe and yet western leaders still remain resolute in their calls for the public to accept…

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